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I've just had a firework fired at me.

Oct19

Firstly, this post might contain some bad language. Not surprisingly I'm still fired up from having a firework at me and my boy, 4.

We'd been playing down the park, went for a ride around summerbank, then came down by toms tiles.

Then as we headed down to the park again a fire work was set off from inside by a gang of about 20 kids.

Any way to scare them off, I pull my phone out of my pocket and start looking for staffs police number, they see me do this and launch a firework in my direction.

Lucky for us it wasn't a powerful rocket, but it's not the point.

All I can say is the police have been great. But I think we have a bigger problem on our hands.

Could someone pass this info onto the NHW (if we still have one) and if not, lets get one going again.

Please every should have an opinion on this, lets talk about it and then get something done.

No one fires anything at my firework at my family and expect it to end there.

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Lawrence's picture

Don't know these two, but I

Don't know these two, but I suggest that anyone who does know where they live pop round and have a "word" with their parents. This has gone from being petty vandalism to dangerous behaviour and needs to be stopped before something serious happens

Web Monkey's picture

I've just had a policeman

I've just had a policeman around. He has some info to be going on with. Calmed down a bit now. Just to make it clearer I think the kids I mentioned were just in the group. Even see, they'll know who did what.

The other thing that really narks me is the shop keeper who keeps selling them to the kids.

Anyway I worry for my kids as they grow up with this set of muppets running the show.

DawnD's picture

Dear All, As a Neighbourhood

Dear All,

As a Neighbourhood Watch Co-ordinator I would suggest the following:

~ DO NOT take matters into your own hands.
~ ALWAYS contact the Police in instances such as these the number is: 03001234455.
~ PLEASE DO NOT mention names of individuals on public sites such as these.... the repercussions for the Users/Owners of the sites is vast.

Love Dawn x
www.nwsrcf.proboards20.com
Bignall End Neighbourhood Watch Co-ordinator

Web Monkey's picture

HI Dawn Thanks for the

HI Dawn

Thanks for the advise, I've edited the original post, and taken the names out.

Steve's picture

WM See my post re bins on

WM See my post re bins on fire. These kids aimed fire works into the play ground. One muppet was holding them while they went off. It would be such a shame if the little darling was to injure himself.

bj-dj61's picture

This is a problem that will

This is a problem that will never go away i am sorry to say kids are kids, as a teenager growing up i did silly things like jumping in hedges, postmans knock, Letting bangers off all sorts of daft things including dangerous ones. Do not get me wrong, what went on in the park was well out of order and dangerous but since the world became politicaly correct and took away the right for parents teachers and the law to dicipline kids , it is not surprising this sort of think goes on.

This is scary. But,

This is scary. But, unfortunately, I don't know what the answer is. Thanks to Dawn - I now have that number in my mobile, just in case. I walk my daughter to Rainbows on a Thursday at Summerbank school, and these last few weeks I've felt uneasy walking through the footpath at the top of Hurricane Grove on to Summerbank due to the groups of teenagers hanging around in the alleyway. So much so, that I've been getting my hubby to pick her up in the car, as it's dark then and that always makes it seem worse! A 2 minute walk, has now become a 10 min trip in the car!

Web Monkey's picture

Just for future reference -

Just for future reference - you'll find the police non emergency number at the footer of this site (on every page) Sharky made me put it on a few weeks ago. (it came in handy today actually).

Keep your stories coming in. We need to build a bigger picture of whats going out there.

I take on board what the user with the funny user name said about kids doing daft things, but what happened today wasn't knock and run, hedge hopping. It was an attempt to either frighten or injure some one. Some one with a little boy.

Makes me think of the sort of evil that killed Jamie Buldger. Kids that know and fear no bounds. It's fair enough blaming problems on kids not being disciplined at school, but this problem stems from homes.

bj-dj61's picture

Lets look at the big picture

Lets look at the big picture here the open space area was designed for the younger generation on the estate.What is there for teenagers to do around here that does not cost a fortune. When we were kids at least we had youth clubs and places to go. Lets face it there a a lot of young kids on this estate that will soon be teenagers hanging around the park making a nuisance of themselves, it was only this weekend when i was in the garden and there were several kids playing on bikes riding up and down the road shouting obscenities at one another. The Language used was rather colourful when i was a kid and was caught using language like that I knew what soap tastes like and these were not teenagers.

Steve's picture

The boredome and having

The boredome and having nothing to do excuse does not wash. It still does not excuse this sort of behavior. Unfortunatly todays society seems to accept this argument. Untill people are made to accept the consequences of their actions by robust courts this sort of behavior will continue not just here but across the country. The way your post reads it sounds like you are ready to accept that the estate will deteriorate. Some of us are not

bj-dj61's picture

Sorry but you are wrong NO I

Sorry but you are wrong NO I AM NOT READY TO LET THE ESTATE DETERIORATE the point I was trying to make is we were all teenagers once and we all did silly things. It was only last night that someone took a fancy to my solar lights from the front garden.

Web Monkey's picture

They must have seen your

They must have seen your lights whilst hedge hopping, and pintched when knocking and running.

Fair point, we all did daft things, got a couple of scars to prove it.

But the int is, as a kid would you fire a fire work at a man with a 4 year old boy.

Thats beyond harmless fun. That suggests we have monsters in our neighbourhood. The same sort who would'nt think twice about stabbing someone.

Steve's picture

Please accept my appologies

Please accept my appologies if I have missunderstood your post. If it is any help if yours is the house facing the open space I noticed that your lights were there when I went past at about nine ish. I first noticed them about a week or so ago and thought they looked very nice.

Web Monkey's picture

It would be good to know

It would be good to know what the parents of this site's kids thought about what goes on down their ay area.

Lawrence, your the poll master, if you or any one can think of a decent set of questions about facilities, saftey, threats. Post's can be confidential. I could set a survey up on the site and we'd all get a bigger picture.

Lawrence's picture

The Straw Poll Hat (ho ho

The Straw Poll Hat (ho ho ho) has been put on. I shall send you some thoughts presently.

Web Monkey's picture

Cheers, and sorry for type

Cheers, and sorry for type casting you Wink

Web Monkey's picture

I've got the survey

I've got the survey questions through from Lawrence and they're good, well worth all parents taking part. He's also suggested another leaflet drop when it's done.

If I do a small leaflet, could we get a few of us to print some off and coordinate postal runs.

Oh, and while were on the subject, occasional clicks on the google ads in the right pane will help to fund domain name renewals and printing costs.

Don't abuse the system as it's fraud, but one or two a week won't harm Wink

Hi, Just received an e-mail

Hi, Just received an e-mail asking for my views so here goes! My children both boys visit the park on numerous occasions to play football or colour tag (a game involving the coloured ground). Most of the time they end up coming back from the park to play outside the house as they are always intimidated by the gangs that turn up in their masses. There is one lad that has threatened my eldest son and told him if he sees him at the park he will in his words bash his head in, so everytime this youth turns up my son runs from the park in fear. There was an incident a couple of weeks ago where my youngest son was threatened by two lads who said they had knives at which point my husband went down to tackle these lads as we didn't feel comfortable not only for the safety of our children but the rest of the kids that were playing there. Why is it always the kids from our estates who end up running home in fear when other children arrive at the park? I appreciate the park isn't just for our kids but if these youths are not dealt with we will have to go back to our kids playing in the street which I am sure not everybody would be happy with? They also go down on their bikes to ride around but even that isn't a safe thing to do as my youngest got his bike stolen from inside the sports complex (believe it or not it turned out to be someone living on our estate)!!!! We did get the bike back after the police got involved but it seems you can't even trust some of the people living around you! I just feel they do need somewhere to let off steam but feel running home all of the time or being chased off the park with planks of wood/sticks etc isn't the way forward. Not sure what the answers are but if the younger generation start to use the language these lads/girls use there is no hope for anyone!!

DawnD's picture

Firework Safety and the

Firework Safety and the Law

http://www.berr.gov.uk/fireworks/

Love Dawn x
www.nwsrcf.proboards20.com
Bignall End Neighbourhood Watch Co-ordinator

Web Monkey's picture

"As for fireworks, you are

"As for fireworks, you are right. It does become a real concern at this time of year, especially as the kids causing the problems simply don't realise the danger that fireworks present, and the injuries they can cause. We have spent the last week talking to schools with the Fire Service, highlighting the dangers, and showing the damage that can be caused. Despite this, there is always going to be the odd idiot who messes around, risking their life and others - I know that might sound dramatic, but with fireworks you just don't know.
The law states that you must be 18 to buy and posses fireworks, and they must be let off in the privacy of your own garden, not on or near a road, and certainly not used in any way by children (with the exception of sparklers, but even they burn at over 2000 degrees!) On occasions, we have had youths throwing fireworks, onto and over public roads, and the dangers this causes obviously increase greatly.
We are increasing patrols regarding anti social behaviour at the moment, and because fireworks are in shops at the moment, we are paying particular attention to this problem. I would encourage you, and anyone else on the estate, to call us if you see any anti social behaviour of this nature happening, so that we can respond as quickly as possible, prevent any harm being caused, and deal with any offenders as necessary.
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PC 4733 Glyn Talbot

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